Curse

Bahumhat · Oct 22, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Skills:
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Deathly Swarm
Taste of Death
Suffering
Feast of Corruption{(E})
Awaken The Blood
Res Sig.

Attributes:
Death - 12(+3 and +1[from headpeice])
Curses - 10(+3)
Soul Reap - 8(+2)
Blood - 2

Armor:
Vile Scar(Head)
Chest Scar(Chest)
Arm Scar(Arms)
Leg Scar(Legs)
Bloodstained boots(feet)[Skills that target corpses are faster]

Weapon mods:
Energy +10
Cold dmg: 11-22(req. 9 Death magic)
Improves casting speed using Death magic skills(Chance: 20%)
Improves skills recharge using Death magic skills(Chance: 20%)
Health +30
Health +30
Dmg +20%(customized)

Strat:
Right before you start in combat cast Awaken The Blood. to get +2 in curses making 15 in curses. Cast Suffering on your target, Then cast FoC(Feast of Corruption). Since suffering is a AoE(Area Of Effect) Hex. no need for 3 or more hexes on your skill bar, and wasted energy. After FoC, cast Deathly Swarm. Keep reapeating, until someone on the field dies. Once someone dies on the field, your team or not. Cast Animate Bone minions. This should raise 2 bone horrors(melee minions) cast Death Nova on both the minions. wait til they start attacking the enamy Team. Once they do, use Taste of Death. At 16 Death. Taste of Death should take 420 hp from a minion. Thats enough to kill the minion, and with death nova on the minion 105 dmg will explode onto the nearby enemys. with atleast 2 minions, thats 210 dmg. now that the minions are dead, if another corpse is lying on the ground. and you have 25 energy cast Animate Bone minions again, and repeat the process. If there isnt a corpse. Cast Deathly Swarm or death Nova on teammates near death or res dead allies with your Res Sig. By now FoC should be recharged. cast suffering on your target and then Foc. Keep repeating til one Team has won the match.

Comments, Ideas, suggestions are aprecaited.

The Hand Of Death · Oct 22, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahumhat

Skills:
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Deathly Swarm
Taste of Death
Suffering
Feast of Corruption{(E})
Awaken The Blood
Res Sig.

Attributes:
Death - 12(+3 and +1[from headpeice])
Curses - 10(+3)
Soul Reap - 8(+2)
Blood - 2

Armor:
Vile Scar(Head)
Chest Scar(Chest)
Arm Scar(Arms)
Leg Scar(Legs)
Bloodstained boots(feet)[Skills that target corpses are faster]

Weapon mods:
Energy +10
Cold dmg: 11-22(req. 9 Death magic)
Improves casting speed using Death magic skills(Chance: 20%)
Improves skills recharge using Death magic skills(Chance: 20%)
Health +30
Health +30
Dmg +20%(customized)

Strat:
Right before you start in combat cast Awaken The Blood. to get +2 in curses making 15 in curses. Cast Suffering on your target, Then cast FoC(Feast of Corruption). Since suffering is a AoE(Area Of Effect) Hex. no need for 3 or more hexes on your skill bar, and wasted energy. After FoC, cast Deathly Swarm. Keep reapeating, until someone on the field dies. Once someone dies on the field, your team or not. Cast Animate Bone minions. This should raise 2 bone horrors(melee minions) cast Death Nova on both the minions. wait til they start attacking the enamy Team. Once they do, use Taste of Death. At 16 Death. Taste of Death should take 420 hp from a minion. Thats enough to kill the minion, and with death nova on the minion 105 dmg will explode onto the nearby enemys. with atleast 2 minions, thats 210 dmg. now that the minions are dead, if another corpse is lying on the ground. and you have 25 energy cast Animate Bone minions again, and repeat the process. If there isnt a corpse. Cast Deathly Swarm or death Nova on teammates near death or res dead allies with your Res Sig. By now FoC should be recharged. cast suffering on your target and then Foc. Keep repeating til one Team has won the match.

Comments, Ideas, suggestions are aprecaited.

I tried this with some differences. I did the minion combo with a different killing combo. I used blood spells instead of curses but I loved the way the minions and quick death nova worked. I should try the curses now.

Bahumhat · Oct 24, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Anyone else? :/

Ghost. · Oct 24, 2005, 01:55 AM // 01:55

i like the build

Tialian · Oct 24, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

You know what, this is one kickass build.

I've been doing a minion master and my goal in the past has been to do my best to keep my minions alive and get as many as possible. While this is a good build I think I would like to try this one so I might act more like an elementalist.

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 24, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Do something with a secondary class. Something, anything...

Half-ass, half class...

The truely maximum efficiency class I can only see being viable by itself as a pure class is most definitely the ranger...

To help this build [without just walking in and blurting out shtuff], I'd suggest these as your second class skills...

Mesmer half
Drain Enchantment [your build is truely an energy eating beast. Feed it!]

Monk half
Any heal to keep your minions alive

Ranger half
Serpent's Quickness [make your recycle times faster. Cast 3 times instead of 2!! ^_^]

There's something from other skill classes in there you can use to become stronger... I say you can easily afford to lose awaken the blood or res sig for that...

Bahumhat · Oct 24, 2005, 05:49 AM // 05:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

Do something with a secondary class. Something, anything...

Half-ass, half class...

The truely maximum efficiency class I can only see being viable by itself as a pure class is most definitely the ranger...

To help this build [without just walking in and blurting out shtuff], I'd suggest these as your second class skills...

Mesmer half
Drain Enchantment [your build is truely an energy eating beast. Feed it!]

Monk half
Any heal to keep your minions alive

Ranger half
Serpent's Quickness [make your recycle times faster. Cast 3 times instead of 2!! ^_^]

There's something from other skill classes in there you can use to become stronger... I say you can easily afford to lose awaken the blood or res sig for that...

I could change out Awaken the blood. for something in the secondary class. I wouldnt want monk secondary for my minions, cuz I want my minions dead.(Death nova, taste of death) and if i'm able to get 2 minions up. i got 2 lifes right there. with 2 sups. and a major my health is going to be below 420. and if i got a warrior on me, I wont need to run.

I would prob want something that steals energy, like you said "truely an energy eating beast" maybe Energy trap. but Thats why I have Soul Reaping.

I dont know about serpent's quickness. I got a staff that'll make the recharge faster. a reason i would want a ranger is thier running stances, or thier evading stances to get away when i have 2-8 people pounding on me. Or i could use thier Troll Urgent for a little regen.

Bahumhat · Oct 26, 2005, 11:13 AM // 11:13

Anymore opnions? :/

mortalis doleo · Oct 26, 2005, 11:24 AM // 11:24

i used a similar build a long time ago...
its a great build since you have energy when you need it (when a person dies), you get constant self-healing, and you can cause nice damage with the nova AND FoC...
its nice for both pve and pvp...

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 26, 2005, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahumhat

I could change out Awaken the blood. for something in the secondary class. I wouldnt want monk secondary for my minions, cuz I want my minions dead.(Death nova, taste of death) and if i'm able to get 2 minions up. i got 2 lifes right there. with 2 sups. and a major my health is going to be below 420. and if i got a warrior on me, I wont need to run.

I would prob want something that steals energy, like you said "truely an energy eating beast" maybe Energy trap. but Thats why I have Soul Reaping.

I dont know about serpent's quickness. I got a staff that'll make the recharge faster. a reason i would want a ranger is thier running stances, or thier evading stances to get away when i have 2-8 people pounding on me. Or i could use thier Troll Urgent for a little regen.

I think the bonus from serp's quickness stack with the staff bonus. Problem? Staff is a % to occur, serp's quickness is guarunteed should you be in healthy status. [which is the case cause of death nova I'm assuming]

Ok, if soulreaping is your energy feed, then I'd highly recommend using Arcane Echo in there. It's on the n/me premade build and it does the job it was intended for. [carrying 2 summon skills or using 2 offensive skills back to back is never bad...]

Bahumhat · Oct 26, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

I have tried it, since it doesnt affect my att. points it works quite well, 2 FoC's 2 animate bone minions. 2 sufferings. and 2 Dealthy Swarms. But since its the non elite echo. im sacerficing energy for dmg. leaving out 2 minions/minons bombs in my stat. but I geuss the sacerfice is good, since if i waste the energy on 2 Foc's and then maybe Deathly Swarm. I'll get some energy in return if I kill my foe. If i dont, it wont take long before my foe does die, and i'll get my 10 energy.

Tialian · Oct 27, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15

I've tried out your build, it's pretty fun but for places like SF the minion master build just works better. I tried my minion master build and tried to do orozars quest with henchies and got to the end before I finally died but with your build I simply had too many enemy necros stealing my corpses that I needed to use for bombs. I'm sure with a group of actual players I would have had better results, and I do love usings taste of death to pop off 100 aoe damage one after another.

It's a good build but I think I'll do some adjusting, instead of using bone fiends for my minion master I'll use regular bone minions. Not only are they cheaper to cast but I can still bring along nova and taste of death to make their deaths meaningful while trying to keep them alive as long as possible

Bahumhat · Oct 27, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

when you're in places where enemy necros steal your minions change out Awaken the blood with Verta's Aura. Making all enemy minions in the area bound to you. for atleast 300 secs with 16 death magic. Verta's Aura takes 30 seconds to rechage. so you dont have to worry about lsoing your mininos due to Verta's Arua.

Bahumhat · Oct 28, 2005, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I was thinking... what if this build went into Hoh? then i went deeper

1 necro of this build.
1 necro that keeps minons alive(Verta's Sacerfice, aura, Gaze, etc)
1 suicider. Illlusion of Weakness, Blood is power etc. etc.
1 Heal monk with Unyeilding Aura, and other regular monk skills(15 divine, 16 heal)
1 regular heal monk without Unyeilding Aura.(15 divine, 16 Heal)
1 protection monk with blessed aura + Aegis(15 divine, 16 Protection)
2 interupt rangers
then 1 shutdown mesmer(energy, domination magic etc.)

the necro use the suicider to get has much minions as possible. before match begins. once it does. the necro will cast Death Nova on all the miniosn and rush in.
The other necro will make sure the minons are alive until the minions rush in.

The interupt rangers will keep 2 of thier monks from casting(if they have 3) then the last monk will be taken care of by the shutdown mesmer.

With the monks gone, the enemy team will have very little healing. Making sure that when Death Nova goes off, they wont get healed after.

The suicider will help the monks with Blood is power if they need it. when the minions rush in, and there are no corpses for minons, the suicder will start killing himself again. then the minion process will be repeated.

Make sure you keep the monks down. Cause the Death Nova blast is not 100% death sure. but if the victims arent getting healed they'll go down.

I'm not sure if one of the ranger should bring Frozen soil along, because your suicder wont be getting up. but i geuss you dont lay it down til most of the enemy team is dead(like maybe 3)

The monks will heal/prot when necessary. make sure you keep aegis up at all times(if you go up agasint alot of warriors like IWAY)

(possible theory) All mesmers bring Arcane echo, or the elite echo. so you can use your res signet twice. if someone has fallen.

smurfhunter · Oct 28, 2005, 02:16 AM // 02:16

there are teams like this, called minion builds, and generally you would have 2 sacrificers since one wont get you enough minions. that said its kind of obviuos you have to have 2 minion masters and 2 fastcast resers.. and thats where the problem with this build is, its one of those offensive gimmick builds with poor defense. (only room for 2 monks... in case you missed it)

in this case however, if the minion master is killed.. all hell breaks lose. your minions will attack everyone, including you, and in most minion builds like this you just kill both necros, stand back and say 'gg'

thats not to say this build cant win a few rounds, it just that i dont think the build is thaaat great of a build, if youre on the subject of gimmick builds

it used to be even easier before, with emo smiting all you would do is put BA on the warrior, have him run right into the minions and in about 10 seconds there would be none left.

so.... unless you really plan out an 8 man team for this... id stick to pve

knives · Oct 28, 2005, 02:23 AM // 02:23

I'd say replace awaken with malign inervention, and suffering with shadow of fear for pvp. You know you have got the kill in the bag? Then just deathly a few times, malign, and FoC said target. Now you get a masterless bone minion that dies for more energy from SR. Also mal intervention reduces healing.

Uber Yuber · Oct 28, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

how do u summon more than 1 bone horror?

smurfhunter · Oct 28, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

"summon bone minions"

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Bahumhat · Oct 28, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

I dont want my minions alive. I want them dead. the enemy team killing my minions is helpful. I use Animate bone minons. to get 2 minions form 1 corpse. I cast Death Nova on all the minions and when they start attacking i spam Taste of Death.

If my minion resser dies, and yes all hell breaks loose. but thats why i have a minion keeper, like i said in my HoH post.(Verta's Aura. Gaze, Sacerfice) and if the enemy team has a little army of thier own, the minion keeper will use Gaze and Aura to control them. Then the minon resser will start to cast Death Nova, then taste of Death.

I dont know about Maligen, it spawns masterless minion. and to control them to use Death Nova and Taste of death combo. My Minon keeper will have to keep sacerficing hp for Verta's Aura(to control the masterless minions)

Bahumhat · Oct 30, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Oh btw. If anyone would like to try this out in tombs. PM me what position you would like to play. your IGN. and times your are avaible.( ex: Friday after 9:00 pm est.)

We will be meeting at international dis 2(for those on the euro servers)